so here now, jack fer rouge i don't know, john silvia. i want to get your take on this sandy factor and the stock market. >> i think sandy is a temporary story, but the way i think christie and other governors and mayors really pitched in suggests that we'll get through this fairly quickly and there will be serious commitments in terms of infrastructure and improvements. and i'll reemphasize your point. chinese purchasing survey was a little improved and you're right, if the purchasing manager survey in the u.s. is a little better as was consumer confidence. >> jack, what do you think, is sandy a big driver for stocks or is it the coming election and the possible outcome? >> i think it's one that you have a lot of underinvested what i call nonbelievers. i think we're entering the period of chasing returns. first of november i think we started since '09 where it's been up. which is indicative of what the next couple of months will bring. having said that, sandy will produce jobs. the question is will sandy produce more jobs than president